Cognitive and neuro
DSIP
Named for sleep, then matched by saline in rabbits
- What circulates
- 100 to 300 mcg under the skin, once in the evening
- What was studied
- About 1,485 mcg into a vein, for a 70 kg adult
- The gap
- Convention runs below the studied dose
- How long it lasts
- FDA states a short plasma half life of 8 minutes, citing a 2001 review rather than a primary measurement, and I could not trace that figure back to a primary human study. Kato and colleagues, measuring how fast it disappeared after an injection into a vein, got 4.0 minutes in 4 anaesthetised dogs, 2.9 in a monkey and 2.0 in 3 rats. All of those numbers are for a vein. Fast clearance from a vein does not by itself sink a nightly injection under the skin, since absorption out of the tissue can be the slow step, and neither FDA nor I found a study measuring that in any species. Untested, not refuted.
What it actually is
What it is supposed to do
What people take it for
The dose question
- What circulates
- 100 to 300 mcg under the skin, once in the evening
- What was studied
- About 1,485 mcg into a vein, for a 70 kg adult
- 25 nmol/kg, or 21.2 mcg/kg, the dose most of the human sleep trials used
Below the studied dose
The circulating figure is roughly 5 to 15 times smaller per kilogram than the trial dose, and it goes in by a route neither FDA's reviewers nor I found a human trial for. Every human administration whose route I could establish went into a vein, apart from one study up the nose that carries no abstract. I could find no published derivation for the 100 to 300 mcg number, and the dosing page I opened describes those figures as coming from research write ups rather than clinical trials. Against the two cat experiments, both near 100 mcg/kg under the skin, it is 24 to 71 times smaller.
Reported because it is what people use. Nothing here recommends any amount.
How long it lasts
FDA states a short plasma half life of 8 minutes, citing a 2001 review rather than a primary measurement, and I could not trace that figure back to a primary human study. Kato and colleagues, measuring how fast it disappeared after an injection into a vein, got 4.0 minutes in 4 anaesthetised dogs, 2.9 in a monkey and 2.0 in 3 rats. All of those numbers are for a vein. Fast clearance from a vein does not by itself sink a nightly injection under the skin, since absorption out of the tissue can be the slow step, and neither FDA nor I found a study measuring that in any species. Untested, not refuted.
Route studied
Into a vein, in every human administration whose route I could establish, apart from one study given up the nose that carries no abstract. In animals, infused into the fluid filled chambers inside the brain, and under the skin in two cat experiments and in rabbits at 1 mg/kg.
Route used
Injected under the skin, once in the evening, 1 to 3 hours before intended sleep.
How to check you have the right molecule
Two numbers to hold a batch report against. The mass should come back near 848.8, and the sequence should read Trp-Ala-Gly-Gly-Asp-Ala-Ser-Gly-Glu, nine amino acids long. Then two names. Emideltide is the American regulator's word for the same molecule, so that one is not a substitution. Deltaran is: FDA describes it as a freeze dried mixture of DSIP and glycine at one part to ten by weight, and the mouse life span result that circulates as a DSIP finding was run on that two component preparation rather than on DSIP alone. The same substitution runs through the animal sleep record, where the steadiest effects belong to modified versions of the molecule with one piece swapped out, and not to the parent.
Walked through on two real certificates in how to read a certificate of analysis.
What people get wrong
What is known about harm
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